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  • Frost Advisory

    Ends in 4 h 51 min

    When
    For the first Frost Advisory, until 9 AM PDT Friday. For the second Frost Advisory, from 11 PM Friday to 9 AM PDT Saturday.
    Where
    In Oregon, Tualatin Valley, Central Oregon Coast Range, and Central Oregon Coast Range Lowlands. In Washington, Cowlitz County Lowlands, North Clark County Lowlands, South Washington Cascade Foothills, and Willapa Hills.

    Issued for this forecast zone · National Weather Service Portland OR

    What, impacts and precautions

    What

    For the first Frost Advisory, temperatures of 33 to 36 degrees will result in frost formation. For the second Frost Advisory, temperatures of 33 to 36 degrees will result in frost formation.

    Impacts

    Frost could harm sensitive outdoor vegetation. Sensitive outdoor plants may be killed if left uncovered.

    Precautionary actions

    Take steps now to protect tender outdoor plants from the cold. Consider temporarily moving outdoor potted plants indoors if they are sensitive to cold temperatures, or temporarily covering sensitive plants with a lightweight cotton fabric (i.e., bedsheets, thin blankets), as this will help retain heat and provide frost protection for your plants.

    Areas: Central Oregon Coast Range Lowlands; Central Oregon Coast Range; Tualatin Valley; Willapa Hills; Cowlitz County Lowlands; North Clark County Lowlands; South Washington Cascade Foothills

    See it on weather.gov (opens in a new tab)
  • Frost Advisory

    Starts in 18 h 51 min

    When
    For the first Frost Advisory, until 9 AM PDT Friday. For the second Frost Advisory, from 11 PM Friday to 9 AM PDT Saturday.
    Where
    In Oregon, Tualatin Valley, Central Oregon Coast Range, and Central Oregon Coast Range Lowlands. In Washington, Cowlitz County Lowlands, North Clark County Lowlands, South Washington Cascade Foothills, and Willapa Hills.

    Issued for this forecast zone · National Weather Service Portland OR

    What, impacts and precautions

    What

    For the first Frost Advisory, temperatures of 33 to 36 degrees will result in frost formation. For the second Frost Advisory, temperatures of 33 to 36 degrees will result in frost formation.

    Impacts

    Frost could harm sensitive outdoor vegetation. Sensitive outdoor plants may be killed if left uncovered.

    Precautionary actions

    Take steps now to protect tender outdoor plants from the cold. Consider temporarily moving outdoor potted plants indoors if they are sensitive to cold temperatures, or temporarily covering sensitive plants with a lightweight cotton fabric (i.e., bedsheets, thin blankets), as this will help retain heat and provide frost protection for your plants.

    Areas: Central Oregon Coast Range Lowlands; Central Oregon Coast Range; Tualatin Valley; Willapa Hills; Cowlitz County Lowlands; North Clark County Lowlands; South Washington Cascade Foothills

    See it on weather.gov (opens in a new tab)

Observed 3:30 AM PDT at KVUO

Beaverton, OR weather

Partly cloudy and 43°6°.

Today: low 41°5° (likely 38°3° to 41°5°), high 61°16° (likely 58°14° to 62°17°).

Mostly agree

Now 43°6°

Partly cloudy

Wind
Calm
Light through 4 PM
Dew point
39°4°
Comfortable
UV tomorrow
3Moderate
Moderate 1–3 PM · peak 3
Air quality
17Good
Main pollutant: PM2.5 (fine particles)
Pressure
30.19 inHg1022 hPa
Rising · +0.05 inHg+1.5 hPa in 3 h

Next 2 hours

No precipitation expected in the next 2 hours.

Next 48 hours

Good hours for
  • Fog today 8–9 AM
  • Above 50°10° today by 11 AM
  • High 61°16° today at 4 PM
  • Below 50°10° tonight after 8 PM
  • Fog tomorrow 4–9 AM
  1. TonightNear 42°6° · Clear
  2. This morningUp to 52°11° by 11 AM · Clear
  3. This afternoonUp to 61°16° by 4 PM · Partly cloudy
  4. TonightDown to 40°4° by 4 AM · Partly cloudy
  5. Tomorrow morningUp to 50°10° by 11 AM · Mostly cloudy
  6. Tomorrow afternoonUp to 62°17° by 4 PM · Mostly cloudy
  7. Tomorrow nightDown to 43°6° by 3 AM · rain chance 20% · Mostly cloudy
Hourly forecast, next 48 hours, in the place's local time
HourConditionsTemperatureFeels likePrecipitationWindHumidityCloud coverUV index
Fri 4aClear42°6° (likely 41°5° to 44°7°)42°6°0%1 mph2 km/h from WSW, gusts 4 mph7 km/h91%11%0
Fri 5aMostly clear42°6° (likely 41°5° to 43°6°)42°6°0%1 mph2 km/h from WSW, gusts 4 mph7 km/h92%12%0
Fri 6aMostly clear42°6° (likely 39°4° to 42°6°)42°6°0%1 mph2 km/h from SSW, gusts 5 mph8 km/h93%14%0
Fri 7aClear41°5° (likely 39°4° to 42°6°)41°5°0%1 mph2 km/h from S, gusts 5 mph7 km/h95%16%0
Fri 8aFog41°5° (likely 38°3° to 42°6°)41°5°0%1 mph2 km/h from S, gusts 3 mph5 km/h97%19%0
Fri 9aMostly sunny43°6° (likely 41°5° to 45°7°)43°6°0%1 mph2 km/h from SSE, gusts 5 mph7 km/h93%19%0
Fri 10aSunny48°9° (likely 47°8° to 50°10°)48°9°0%1 mph2 km/h from S, gusts 3 mph5 km/h84%26%1
Fri 11aSunny52°11° (likely 52°11° to 53°12°)52°11°0%1 mph2 km/h from SSW, gusts 5 mph8 km/h77%26%1
Fri 12pMostly sunny55°13° (likely 54°12° to 56°13°)55°13°0%1 mph2 km/h from SSW, gusts 5 mph8 km/h68%25%2
Fri 1pSunny58°14° (likely 56°13° to 58°14°)58°14°0%1 mph2 km/h from SW, gusts 6 mph10 km/h59%28%2
Fri 2pSunny59°15° (likely 57°14° to 60°16°)59°15°0%1 mph2 km/h from WSW, gusts 8 mph13 km/h54%32%2
Fri 3pSunny60°16° (likely 57°14° to 61°16°)60°16°0%1 mph2 km/h from WSW, gusts 7 mph12 km/h51%31%2
Fri 4pMostly sunny61°16° (likely 58°14° to 62°17°)61°16°0%1 mph2 km/h from WNW, gusts 7 mph11 km/h51%23%1
Fri 5pMostly sunny59°15° (likely 57°14° to 61°16°)59°15°0%1 mph2 km/h from E, gusts 7 mph11 km/h51%19%1
Fri 6pMostly clear57°14° (likely 54°12° to 57°14°)57°14°0%0 mph0 km/h, gusts 5 mph7 km/h56%22%0
Fri 7pClear54°12° (likely 51°11° to 54°12°)54°12°0%0 mph0 km/h, gusts 4 mph6 km/h66%27%0
Fri 8pPartly cloudy49°9° (likely 49°9° to 52°11°)49°9°0%0 mph0 km/h, gusts 2 mph4 km/h73%52%0
Fri 9pPartly cloudy47°8° (likely 47°8° to 50°10°)47°8°0%0 mph0 km/h, gusts 4 mph7 km/h79%77%0
Fri 10pPartly cloudy46°8° (likely 45°7° to 48°9°)46°8°0%0 mph0 km/h, gusts 4 mph7 km/h84%54%0
Fri 11pMostly clear45°7° (likely 43°6° to 46°8°)45°7°0%0 mph0 km/h, gusts 4 mph6 km/h87%48%0
Sat 12aPartly cloudy44°7° (likely 42°6° to 45°7°)44°7°0%0 mph0 km/h, gusts 4 mph6 km/h90%48%0
Sat 1aMostly clear43°6° (likely 41°5° to 44°7°)43°6°0%0 mph0 km/h, gusts 3 mph5 km/h93%40%0
Sat 2aPartly cloudy42°6° (likely 40°4° to 43°6°)42°6°0%0 mph0 km/h, gusts 3 mph6 km/h94%69%0
Sat 3aCloudy41°5° (likely 39°4° to 42°6°)41°5°0%0 mph0 km/h, gusts 3 mph5 km/h94%71%0
Sat 4aFog40°4° (likely 38°3° to 41°5°)40°4°0%0 mph0 km/h, gusts 3 mph5 km/h95%61%0
Sat 5aFog40°4° (likely 38°3° to 41°5°)40°4°0%0 mph0 km/h, gusts 3 mph6 km/h97%63%0
Sat 6aFog40°4° (likely 38°3° to 41°5°)40°4°0%0 mph0 km/h, gusts 3 mph5 km/h96%67%0
Sat 7aFog38°3° (likely 37°3° to 40°4°)38°3°0%0 mph0 km/h, gusts 3 mph4 km/h97%78%0
Sat 8aFog39°4° (likely 37°3° to 41°5°)39°4°0%0 mph0 km/h, gusts 3 mph4 km/h98%82%0
Sat 9aCloudy41°5° (likely 39°4° to 43°6°)41°5°0%0 mph0 km/h, gusts 3 mph5 km/h94%81%0
Sat 10aCloudy46°8° (likely 43°6° to 48°9°)46°8°0%0 mph0 km/h, gusts 3 mph5 km/h87%64%1
Sat 11aCloudy50°10° (likely 47°8° to 53°12°)50°10°0%1 mph2 km/h from N, gusts 3 mph4 km/h78%81%2
Sat 12pCloudy53°12° (likely 50°10° to 57°14°)53°12°0%1 mph2 km/h from N, gusts 4 mph6 km/h69%80%2
Sat 1pCloudy57°14° (likely 53°12° to 60°16°)57°14°0%1 mph2 km/h from N, gusts 2 mph4 km/h60%82%3
Sat 2pCloudy60°16° (likely 55°13° to 63°17°)60°16°0%0 mph0 km/h, gusts 3 mph5 km/h53%83%3
Sat 3pCloudy61°16° (likely 57°14° to 64°18°)61°16°0%0 mph0 km/h, gusts 5 mph7 km/h49%87%2
Sat 4pCloudy62°17° (likely 57°14° to 65°18°)62°17°0%0 mph0 km/h, gusts 5 mph8 km/h49%81%2
Sat 5pCloudy60°16° (likely 56°13° to 64°18°)60°16°0%0 mph0 km/h, gusts 4 mph7 km/h49%81%1
Sat 6pCloudy58°14° (likely 56°13° to 58°14°)58°14°0%0 mph0 km/h, gusts 6 mph10 km/h53%81%0
Sat 7pCloudy54°12° (likely 53°12° to 54°12°)54°12°0%0 mph0 km/h, gusts 6 mph9 km/h61%81%0
Sat 8pCloudy50°10° (likely 50°10° to 52°11°)50°10°0%0 mph0 km/h, gusts 6 mph9 km/h69%79%0
Sat 9pCloudy49°9° (likely 49°9° to 51°11°)49°9°0%0 mph0 km/h, gusts 4 mph7 km/h73%81%0
Sat 10pCloudy47°8° (likely 45°7° to 51°11°)47°8°0%0 mph0 km/h, gusts 3 mph5 km/h76%79%0
Sat 11pCloudy46°8° (likely 43°6° to 50°10°)46°8°20%0 mph0 km/h, gusts 3 mph5 km/h80%82%0
Sun 12aRain45°7° (likely 36°2° to 51°11°)45°7°20%0 mph0 km/h, gusts 3 mph5 km/h82%79%0
Sun 1aRain45°7° (likely 35°2° to 51°11°)45°7°20%0 mph0 km/h, gusts 3 mph6 km/h83%82%0
Sun 2aRain44°7° (likely 34°1° to 50°10°)44°7°20%0 mph0 km/h, gusts 4 mph7 km/h85%82%0
Sun 3aRain43°6° (likely 34°1° to 50°10°)43°6°20%0 mph0 km/h, gusts 5 mph7 km/h86%74%0

Days ahead

Shaded: typical range for these dates (1991–2020)
  1. Today, Oct 23. Fog. High 61°16°, low 41°5°. Typical 60°16° / 46°8°. Dry. Mostly agree.
    1. Morning

      6 AM–noon

      Mostly sunny, 41°5°

      Dry

    2. Afternoon

      noon–6 PM

      Sunny, 61°16°

      Dry

    3. Evening

      6 PM–midnight

      Partly cloudy, 49°9°

      Dry

    4. Overnight

      midnight–6 AM

      Cloudy, 40°4°

      Dry

    Official NWS forecast

    Today: Patchy fog between 7am and 9am. Sunny. High near 61, with temperatures falling to around 59 in the afternoon. South southwest wind around 1 mph.

    Tonight: Partly cloudy, with a low around 41. West southwest wind around 1 mph.

    Mostly agreeIndependent forecasts are fairly close; small surprises are possible.

    High, likely
    58°14°–62°17°
    Low, likely
    38°3°–41°5°
    Typical high / low
    60°16° / 46°8°
    Wind
    7 mph11 km/h, gusts 14 mph23 km/h
    UV peak
    4
  2. Tomorrow, Oct 24. Fog. High 62°17°, low 40°4°. Typical 59°15° / 46°8°. Dry. Forecasts differ.
    1. Morning

      6 AM–noon

      Cloudy, 39°4°

      Dry

    2. Afternoon

      noon–6 PM

      Cloudy, 62°17°

      Dry

    3. Evening

      6 PM–midnight

      Cloudy, 50°10°

      Dry

    4. Overnight

      midnight–6 AM

      Rain, 43°6°

      20% chance

    Official NWS forecast

    Day: Patchy fog before 9am. Partly sunny, with a high near 62. North wind around 1 mph.

    Night: Rain likely after 11pm. Mostly cloudy, with a low around 40. Wind around 0 mph. Chance of precipitation is 60%.

    Forecasts differIndependent forecasts disagree; expect changes and plan for the range.

    High, likely
    57°14°–65°18°
    Low, likely
    37°3°–40°4°
    Typical high / low
    59°15° / 46°8°
    Wind
    5 mph9 km/h
    UV peak
    3
  3. Sunday, Oct 25. Rain. High 61°16°, low 44°7°. Typical 59°15° / 46°8°. Rain 0.54 in14 mm, 70% chance. Forecasts differ.
    1. Morning

      6 AM–noon

      Cloudy, 44°7°

      50% chance · 0.15 in3.7 mm

    2. Afternoon

      noon–6 PM

      Rain, 57°14°

      60% chance · 0.19 in4.8 mm

    3. Evening

      6 PM–midnight

      Rain, 53°12°

      60% chance · 0.18 in4.6 mm

    4. Overnight

      midnight–6 AM

      Drizzle, 50°10°

      60% chance · 0.05 in1.2 mm

    Hours this far out come from computer models only.

    Official NWS forecast

    Day: Rain likely. Mostly cloudy, with a high near 61. Chance of precipitation is 70%.

    Night: Rain likely. Mostly cloudy, with a low around 44.

    Forecasts differIndependent forecasts disagree; expect changes and plan for the range.

    High, likely
    53°12°–61°16°
    Low, likely
    37°3°–48°9°
    Typical high / low
    59°15° / 46°8°
    Wind
    12 mph19 km/h, gusts 27 mph43 km/h
    UV peak
    3
  4. Monday, Oct 26. Rain. High 61°16°, low 43°6°. Typical 59°15° / 45°7°. Rain 0.25 in6.4 mm, 70% chance. Forecasts differ.
    1. Morning

      6 AM–noon

      Drizzle, 49°9°

      60% chance · 0.05 in1.3 mm

    2. Afternoon

      noon–6 PM

      Drizzle, 56°13°

      60% chance · 0.1 in2.6 mm

    3. Evening

      6 PM–midnight

      Cloudy, 52°11°

      50% chance

    4. Overnight

      midnight–6 AM

      Cloudy, 49°9°

      30% chance · 0.02 in0.5 mm

    Hours this far out come from computer models only.

    Official NWS forecast

    Day: Rain likely. Mostly cloudy, with a high near 61.

    Night: A chance of rain. Mostly cloudy, with a low around 43.

    Forecasts differIndependent forecasts disagree; expect changes and plan for the range.

    High, likely
    53°12°–61°16°
    Low, likely
    43°6°–49°9°
    Typical high / low
    59°15° / 45°7°
    Wind
    11 mph18 km/h, gusts 24 mph39 km/h
    UV peak
    3
  5. Tuesday, Oct 27. Rain. High 60°16°, low 41°5°. Typical 58°14° / 45°7°. Rain 0.09 in2.3 mm, 20% chance. Mostly agree.
    1. Morning

      6 AM–noon

      Sunny, 48°9°

      Dry

    2. Afternoon

      noon–6 PM

      Cloudy, 57°14°

      Dry

    3. Evening

      6 PM–midnight

      Cloudy, 52°11°

      Dry

    4. Overnight

      midnight–6 AM

      Cloudy, 46°8°

      Dry

    Hours this far out come from computer models only.

    Official NWS forecast

    Day: A slight chance of rain before 5pm. Partly sunny, with a high near 60.

    Night: A slight chance of rain after 5am. Mostly cloudy, with a low around 41.

    Mostly agreeIndependent forecasts are fairly close; small surprises are possible.

    High, likely
    54°12°–60°16°
    Low, likely
    41°5°–49°9°
    Typical high / low
    58°14° / 45°7°
    Wind
    7 mph10 km/h, gusts 14 mph23 km/h
    UV peak
    3
  6. Wednesday, Oct 28. Rain. High 61°16°, low 42°6°. Typical 58°14° / 45°7°. Rain 0.07 in1.8 mm, 30% chance. Forecasts differ.
    1. Morning

      6 AM–noon

      Cloudy, 47°8°

      20% chance

    2. Afternoon

      noon–6 PM

      Cloudy, 56°13°

      30% chance

    3. Evening

      6 PM–midnight

      Cloudy, 52°11°

      Dry

    4. Overnight

      midnight–6 AM

      Clear, 47°8°

      Dry

    Hours this far out come from computer models only.

    Official NWS forecast

    Day: A chance of rain. Partly sunny, with a high near 61.

    Night: A slight chance of rain. Mostly cloudy, with a low around 42.

    Forecasts differIndependent forecasts disagree; expect changes and plan for the range.

    High, likely
    51°11°–61°16°
    Low, likely
    41°5°–47°8°
    Typical high / low
    58°14° / 45°7°
    Wind
    10 mph17 km/h, gusts 23 mph37 km/h
    UV peak
    3
  7. Thursday, Oct 29. Rain. High 61°16°, low 45°7°. Typical 58°14° / 45°7°. Rain 0.09 in2.3 mm, 20% chance. Forecasts differ.
    1. Morning

      6 AM–noon

      Sunny, 47°8°

      Dry

    2. Afternoon

      noon–6 PM

      Sunny, 57°14°

      Dry

    3. Evening

      6 PM–midnight

      Clear, 50°10°

      Dry

    4. Overnight

      midnight–6 AM

      Clear, 43°6°

      Dry

    Hours this far out come from computer models only.

    Official NWS forecast

    Day: A slight chance of rain. Partly sunny, with a high near 61.

    Forecasts differIndependent forecasts disagree; expect changes and plan for the range.

    High, likely
    52°11°–62°17°
    Low, likely
    43°6°–49°9°
    Typical high / low
    58°14° / 45°7°
    Wind
    10 mph16 km/h, gusts 22 mph35 km/h
    UV peak
    3
  8. Friday, Oct 30. Sunny. High 55°13°, low 44°7°. Typical 57°14° / 45°7°. Rain 0.11 in2.8 mm, 20% chance. Forecasts differ.
    1. Morning

      6 AM–noon

      Sunny, 47°8°

      20% chance · 0.06 in1.6 mm

    2. Afternoon

      noon–6 PM

      Cloudy, 56°13°

      Dry

    3. Evening

      6 PM–midnight

      Clear, 51°11°

      Dry

    4. Overnight

      midnight–6 AM

      Cloudy, 45°7°

      Dry

    Hours this far out come from computer models only.

    The National Weather Service writes about seven days ahead; this day is our model forecast only.

    Forecasts differIndependent forecasts disagree; expect changes and plan for the range.

    High, likely
    50°10°–61°16°
    Low, likely
    41°5°–51°11°
    Typical high / low
    57°14° / 45°7°
    Wind
    6 mph10 km/h, gusts 15 mph25 km/h
    UV peak
    3
  9. Saturday, Oct 31. Cloudy. High 57°14°, low 44°7°. Typical 57°14° / 44°7°. Dry. Forecasts differ.
    1. Morning

      6 AM–noon

      Mostly sunny, 45°7°

      Dry

    2. Afternoon

      noon–6 PM

      Cloudy, 57°14°

      Dry

    3. Evening

      6 PM–midnight

      Cloudy, 53°12°

      Dry

    4. Overnight

      midnight–6 AM

      Cloudy, 46°8°

      Dry

    Hours this far out come from computer models only.

    The National Weather Service writes about seven days ahead; this day is our model forecast only.

    Forecasts differIndependent forecasts disagree; expect changes and plan for the range.

    High, likely
    51°11°–65°18°
    Low, likely
    42°6°–47°8°
    Typical high / low
    57°14° / 44°7°
    Wind
    7 mph11 km/h, gusts 17 mph27 km/h
    UV peak
    3
  10. Sunday, Nov 1. Cloudy. High 59°15°, low 45°7°. Typical 57°14° / 44°7°. Dry. Mostly agree.
    1. Morning

      6 AM–noon

      Cloudy, 46°8°

      Dry

    2. Afternoon

      noon–6 PM

      Sunny, 56°14°

      Dry

    3. Evening

      6 PM–midnight

      Clear, 55°13°

      Dry

    Hours this far out come from computer models only.

    The National Weather Service writes about seven days ahead; this day is our model forecast only.

    Mostly agreeIndependent forecasts are fairly close; small surprises are possible.

    High, likely
    55°13°–61°16°
    Low, likely
    43°6°–51°11°
    Typical high / low
    57°14° / 44°7°
    Wind
    6 mph9 km/h, gusts 18 mph29 km/h
    UV peak
    3

The outlook

  1. Today

    Dry, high 61°, low 41°.

  2. Tomorrow

    Dry, high 62°, low 40°.

  3. Sunday

    66% chance of rain, high 61°, low 44°.

  4. Rest of week

    Highs 55–61°; chance of precipitation on Monday.

Want the meteorologists’ reasoning? Read the NWS forecast discussion (PQR) (opens in a new tab)

What changed since yesterday

No meaningful changes from yesterday’s forecast.

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For your home

What this week’s weather means for heating, cooling, pipes and fresh air.

Heating this week

About 65% less heating than a typical week.

This week 32Typical 91

Heating degree days, base 65°F

Heat-pump hours, next 7 days

h below 47°F
25
h below 17°F
0
h below 5°F
0

47, 17 and 5°F are the test points heat pumps are rated at. About 12 hours are near freezing and damp, when outdoor units defrost more often.

Comfort

Dry air outside (dew point 39°F).

Open the windows?

Today, 3:00 PM–4:00 PM

Good stretch to open the windows.

Is this typical?

Portland Kgw-Tv · official normals 1991–2020 · records 1874–2026

Oct 23, today vs a typical year

Today’s expected high is about typical for the date.

Normal high / low
60°16° / 46°8°
Forecast high / low
61°16° / 41°5°
Record high
78°26° in 1901
Record low
33°1° in 1887

Last 7 days vs normal

On average 4°2° warmer than normal (daily mean temperature).

  1. +4°+2°SatOct 17
  2. +1°±0°SunOct 18
  3. +3°+2°MonOct 19
  4. +7°+4°TueOct 20
  5. +6°+3°WedOct 21
  6. +4°+2°ThuOct 22
  7. —FriOct 23

Beaverton weather by month: normals, records, snow and freeze dates

Sun & moon

Sun

Sunrise 7:38 AM, sunset 6:11 PM.

Daylight
10 h 33 min
Losing 2 min 58 s a day; shortest Dec 21, 1 h 51 min less
Golden hour
5:30–6:30 PM
Morning 7:19–8:19 AM
Blue hour
6:30–6:42 PM
Morning 7:08–7:19 AM; first light 7:08 AM

Stars tonight? Good

Mostly clear 4:09–7:08 AM; moon 91% lit, sets 4:43 AM.

Moon

Waxing gibbous

91% lit · growing

Today
sets 4:43 AM · rises 4:51 PM
Full moon
Oct 25
New moon
Nov 8
Looking east from Beaverton. The highest point on the skyline is about 10,900 ft, 55 mi away.Skyline from USGS elevation data, heights drawn up to 6× taller. Sky, sun and moon as they are now.