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Observed 4:40 PM PDT at KCVO

Monroe, OR weather

Sunny and 61°16°, rain tomorrow ~11 AM–4 PM (95%).

Today: low 37°3° (likely 30°−1° to 37°3°), high 61°16° (likely 56°13° to 61°16°).

Mostly agree

Now 61°16°

Sunny

Wind
Calm
Up to 6 mph10 km/h through 5 AM
Dew point
37°3°
Comfortable
UV tomorrow
2Low
Low all day (peak 2)
Air quality
22Good
Main pollutant: PM2.5 (fine particles)
Pressure
30.07 inHg1018 hPa
Falling · −0.07 inHg−2.2 hPa in 3 h

Next 2 hours

No precipitation expected in the next 2 hours.

Next 48 hours

Good hours for
  • Dry until 10 AM tomorrow
  • Below 50°10° tonight after 8 PM
  • Low 38°3° tomorrow at 6 AM
  • Rain tomorrow from 10 AM (100%, 2.6 in66 mm)
  • Above 50°10° tomorrow by 11 AM
  1. TonightDown to 40°4° by 3 AM · Mostly cloudy
  2. Tomorrow morningUp to 53°12° by 11 AM · Rain 10 AM–noon (60%)
  3. Tomorrow afternoonUp to 59°15° by 4 PM · Rain all afternoon (70%)
  4. Tomorrow nightDown to 47°8° by 4 AM · Rain all night (100%)
  5. Monday morningUp to 52°11° by 11 AM · Rain all morning (90%)
  6. Monday afternoonNear 55°13° · Rain all afternoon (90%)
Hourly forecast, next 48 hours, in the place's local time
HourConditionsTemperatureFeels likePrecipitationWindHumidityCloud coverUV index
Sat 5pCloudy60°16° (likely 55°13° to 60°16°)60°16°0%0 mph0 km/h, gusts 3 mph5 km/h49%82%1
Sat 6pCloudy57°14° (likely 53°12° to 57°14°)57°14°0%0 mph0 km/h, gusts 2 mph4 km/h58%83%0
Sat 7pCloudy54°12° (likely 49°9° to 54°12°)54°12°0%0 mph0 km/h, gusts 2 mph4 km/h65%81%0
Sat 8pCloudy49°9° (likely 48°9° to 49°9°)49°9°0%0 mph0 km/h, gusts 2 mph3 km/h71%81%0
Sat 9pCloudy48°9° (likely 46°8° to 49°9°)48°9°0%0 mph0 km/h, gusts 3 mph5 km/h73%81%0
Sat 10pCloudy47°8° (likely 45°7° to 48°9°)47°8°0%0 mph0 km/h, gusts 4 mph6 km/h74%82%0
Sat 11pCloudy45°7° (likely 44°7° to 48°9°)45°7°0%2 mph3 km/h from SSW, gusts 5 mph7 km/h77%82%0
Sun 12aCloudy44°7° (likely 43°6° to 47°8°)44°7°0%2 mph3 km/h from SSW, gusts 3 mph5 km/h80%82%0
Sun 1aCloudy44°7° (likely 42°6° to 46°8°)42°6°0%3 mph5 km/h from SSW, gusts 3 mph5 km/h78%84%0
Sun 2aCloudy42°6° (likely 42°6° to 44°7°)40°4°0%3 mph5 km/h from S, gusts 4 mph7 km/h81%83%0
Sun 3aCloudy40°4° (likely 40°4° to 43°6°)37°3°0%5 mph8 km/h from S, gusts 7 mph11 km/h83%79%0
Sun 4aCloudy40°4° (likely 40°4° to 43°6°)37°3°0%5 mph8 km/h from S, gusts 8 mph13 km/h86%75%0
Sun 5aCloudy40°4° (likely 40°4° to 43°6°)36°2°5%, 0.01 in0.3 mm6 mph10 km/h from S, gusts 9 mph14 km/h88%73%0
Sun 6aCloudy38°3° (likely 38°3° to 44°7°)33°1°5%, 0.01 in0.3 mm7 mph11 km/h from S, gusts 10 mph15 km/h89%80%0
Sun 7aCloudy40°4° (likely 40°4° to 45°7°)35°2°5%, 0.01 in0.3 mm7 mph11 km/h from S, gusts 12 mph19 km/h85%86%0
Sun 8aCloudy40°4° (likely 40°4° to 47°8°)35°2°20%, 0.01 in0.3 mm7 mph11 km/h from S, gusts 14 mph22 km/h86%85%0
Sun 9aCloudy43°6° (likely 43°6° to 49°9°)39°4°20%, 0.01 in0.3 mm7 mph11 km/h from S, gusts 13 mph21 km/h90%81%0
Sun 10aRain49°9° (likely 48°9° to 51°11°)46°8°30%, 0.01 in0.3 mm8 mph13 km/h from S, gusts 16 mph26 km/h86%82%0
Sun 11aRain53°12° (likely 50°10° to 54°12°)53°12°60%, 0.11 in2.8 mm7 mph11 km/h from S, gusts 15 mph25 km/h80%99%1
Sun 12pRain55°13° (likely 51°11° to 55°13°)55°13°70%, 0.11 in2.8 mm8 mph13 km/h from S, gusts 13 mph21 km/h81%100%2
Sun 1pRain57°14° (likely 51°11° to 57°14°)57°14°60%, 0.11 in2.8 mm8 mph13 km/h from SSW, gusts 15 mph24 km/h83%100%0
Sun 2pRain58°14° (likely 52°11° to 58°14°)58°14°60%, 0.11 in2.8 mm8 mph13 km/h from SSW, gusts 17 mph27 km/h83%100%0
Sun 3pRain58°14° (likely 52°11° to 58°14°)58°14°70%, 0.11 in2.8 mm8 mph13 km/h from SW, gusts 16 mph26 km/h84%100%0
Sun 4pRain59°15° (likely 52°11° to 59°15°)59°15°60%, 0.11 in2.8 mm8 mph13 km/h from SW, gusts 14 mph22 km/h85%92%0
Sun 5pRain58°14° (likely 52°11° to 58°14°)58°14°70%, 0.11 in2.8 mm6 mph10 km/h from SSW, gusts 15 mph25 km/h87%93%0
Sun 6pCloudy56°13° (likely 51°11° to 56°13°)56°13°70%, 0.11 in2.8 mm6 mph10 km/h from SSW, gusts 15 mph24 km/h89%98%0
Sun 7pRain54°12° (likely 49°9° to 54°12°)54°12°70%, 0.11 in2.8 mm6 mph10 km/h from SSW, gusts 13 mph20 km/h99%78%0
Sun 8pCloudy51°11° (likely 50°10° to 52°11°)51°11°90%, 0.11 in2.8 mm9 mph14 km/h from S, gusts 13 mph21 km/h100%76%0
Sun 9pCloudy50°10° (likely 49°9° to 52°11°)46°8°90%, 0.11 in2.8 mm9 mph14 km/h from S, gusts 15 mph24 km/h99%97%0
Sun 10pRain50°10° (likely 49°9° to 51°11°)46°8°50%, 0.11 in2.8 mm9 mph14 km/h from S, gusts 15 mph24 km/h97%98%0
Sun 11pCloudy50°10° (likely 49°9° to 51°11°)46°8°60%, 0.07 in1.8 mm12 mph19 km/h from S, gusts 16 mph25 km/h97%99%0
Mon 12aRain49°9° (likely 49°9° to 51°11°)44°7°60%, 0.07 in1.8 mm12 mph19 km/h from S, gusts 13 mph21 km/h97%98%0
Mon 1aRain49°9° (likely 48°9° to 51°11°)44°7°40%, 0.07 in1.8 mm12 mph19 km/h from S, gusts 13 mph20 km/h95%76%0
Mon 2aCloudy48°9° (likely 48°9° to 51°11°)43°6°60%, 0.07 in1.8 mm10 mph16 km/h from S, gusts 14 mph22 km/h95%94%0
Mon 3aRain48°9° (likely 48°9° to 51°11°)43°6°100%, 0.07 in1.8 mm10 mph16 km/h from S, gusts 14 mph22 km/h96%86%0
Mon 4aDrizzle47°8° (likely 47°8° to 50°10°)42°6°90%, 0.07 in1.8 mm10 mph16 km/h from S, gusts 17 mph28 km/h95%98%0
Mon 5aRain47°8° (likely 47°8° to 50°10°)43°6°90%, 0.07 in1.8 mm9 mph14 km/h from S, gusts 14 mph22 km/h96%100%0
Mon 6aDrizzle45°7° (likely 45°7° to 50°10°)40°4°90%, 0.07 in1.8 mm9 mph14 km/h from S, gusts 13 mph20 km/h99%100%0
Mon 7aRain45°7° (likely 45°7° to 50°10°)40°4°90%, 0.07 in1.8 mm9 mph14 km/h from S, gusts 16 mph25 km/h100%100%0
Mon 8aDrizzle45°7° (likely 45°7° to 50°10°)40°4°90%, 0.07 in1.8 mm9 mph14 km/h from S, gusts 16 mph26 km/h99%99%0
Mon 9aRain47°8° (likely 47°8° to 51°11°)43°6°90%, 0.07 in1.8 mm9 mph14 km/h from S, gusts 16 mph25 km/h99%94%0
Mon 10aRain50°10° (likely 50°10° to 53°12°)46°8°90%, 0.07 in1.8 mm9 mph14 km/h from S, gusts 20 mph32 km/h100%90%0
Mon 11aCloudy52°11° (likely 52°11° to 55°13°)52°11°90%, 0.07 in1.8 mm10 mph16 km/h from S, gusts 22 mph35 km/h100%84%0
Mon 12pRain53°12° (likely 52°11° to 57°14°)53°12°90%, 0.07 in1.8 mm10 mph16 km/h from S, gusts 19 mph30 km/h99%80%1
Mon 1pRain55°13° (likely 53°12° to 58°14°)55°13°90%, 0.07 in1.8 mm10 mph16 km/h from S, gusts 19 mph31 km/h98%82%1
Mon 2pRain56°13° (likely 53°12° to 58°14°)56°13°90%, 0.07 in1.8 mm10 mph16 km/h from SSW, gusts 19 mph31 km/h97%66%1
Mon 3pDrizzle56°13° (likely 54°12° to 58°14°)56°13°90%, 0.07 in1.8 mm10 mph16 km/h from SSW, gusts 18 mph29 km/h94%80%1
Mon 4pDrizzle56°13° (likely 54°12° to 58°14°)56°13°90%, 0.07 in1.8 mm10 mph16 km/h from SSW, gusts 18 mph28 km/h92%47%2

Days ahead

Shaded: typical range for these dates (1991–2020)
  1. Today, Oct 24. Mostly cloudy. High 61°16°, low 37°3°. Typical 61°16° / 40°4°. Dry. Mostly agree. Best day outdoors this week.
    1. Evening

      6 PM–midnight

      Cloudy, 49°9°

      Dry

    2. Overnight

      midnight–6 AM

      Cloudy, 40°4°

      Dry

    Official NWS forecast

    Today: Partly sunny, with a high near 61. Wind around 0 mph.

    Tonight: Mostly cloudy. Low around 37, with temperatures rising to around 40 overnight. South southwest wind 0 to 6 mph.

    Mostly agreeIndependent forecasts are fairly close; small surprises are possible.

    Best day outdoors this week: the one dry, mild day the forecasts agree on (high 61°16°).

    High, likely
    56°13°–61°16°
    Low, likely
    30°−1°–37°3°
    Typical high / low
    61°16° / 40°4°
    Wind
    6 mph9 km/h, gusts 12 mph20 km/h
    UV peak
    3
  2. Tomorrow, Oct 25. Rain. High 60°16°, low 43°6°. Typical 61°16° / 40°4°. Rain 0.34 in8.6 mm, 70% chance. Mostly agree.
    1. Morning

      6 AM–noon

      Rain, 40°4°

      60% chance · 0.16 in4.1 mm

    2. Afternoon

      noon–6 PM

      Rain, 59°15°

      70% chance · 0.66 in17 mm

    3. Evening

      6 PM–midnight

      Rain, 51°11°

      90% chance · 0.62 in16 mm

    4. Overnight

      midnight–6 AM

      Rain, 47°8°

      100% chance · 0.42 in11 mm

    Official NWS forecast

    Day: Rain likely after 8am. Mostly cloudy. High near 60, with temperatures falling to around 58 in the afternoon. South southwest wind around 8 mph. Chance of precipitation is 70%. New rainfall amounts between a tenth and quarter of an inch possible.

    Night: Rain. Cloudy, with a low around 43. South wind 6 to 12 mph, with gusts as high as 21 mph. Chance of precipitation is 100%. New rainfall amounts between a tenth and quarter of an inch possible.

    Mostly agreeIndependent forecasts are fairly close; small surprises are possible.

    High, likely
    53°12°–60°16°
    Low, likely
    40°4°–43°6°
    Typical high / low
    61°16° / 40°4°
    Wind
    14 mph22 km/h, gusts 28 mph44 km/h
    UV peak
    2
  3. Monday, Oct 26. Rain. High 58°14°, low 42°6°. Typical 60°16° / 40°4°. Rain 0.32 in8.1 mm, 90% chance. Mostly agree.
    1. Morning

      6 AM–noon

      Rain, 45°7°

      90% chance · 0.42 in11 mm

    2. Afternoon

      noon–6 PM

      Rain, 56°13°

      90% chance · 0.36 in9.1 mm

    3. Evening

      6 PM–midnight

      Drizzle, 51°11°

      60% chance · 0.03 in0.6 mm

    4. Overnight

      midnight–6 AM

      Drizzle, 49°10°

      40% chance · 0.04 in1 mm

    Official NWS forecast

    Day: Rain. Mostly cloudy, with a high near 58. South wind 7 to 10 mph. Chance of precipitation is 90%. New rainfall amounts between a tenth and quarter of an inch possible.

    Night: Rain likely. Mostly cloudy, with a low around 42. Chance of precipitation is 60%.

    Mostly agreeIndependent forecasts are fairly close; small surprises are possible.

    High, likely
    54°12°–58°14°
    Low, likely
    42°6°–50°10°
    Typical high / low
    60°16° / 40°4°
    Wind
    13 mph21 km/h, gusts 23 mph37 km/h
    UV peak
    2
  4. Tuesday, Oct 27. Rain. High 60°16°, low 38°3°. Typical 60°16° / 40°4°. Rain 0.14 in3.6 mm, 60% chance. Mostly agree.
    1. Morning

      6 AM–noon

      Drizzle, 49°9°

      50% chance · 0.02 in0.5 mm

    2. Afternoon

      noon–6 PM

      Drizzle, 57°14°

      60% chance · 0.07 in1.8 mm

    3. Evening

      6 PM–midnight

      Clear, 49°9°

      30% chance · 0.02 in0.6 mm

    4. Overnight

      midnight–6 AM

      Cloudy, 44°7°

      20% chance

    Hours this far out come from computer models only.

    Official NWS forecast

    Day: Rain likely before 5pm. Mostly cloudy, with a high near 60.

    Night: Patchy fog between 8pm and 11pm, then a chance of rain. Mostly cloudy, with a low around 38.

    Mostly agreeIndependent forecasts are fairly close; small surprises are possible.

    High, likely
    56°13°–60°16°
    Low, likely
    38°3°–48°9°
    Typical high / low
    60°16° / 40°4°
    Wind
    9 mph14 km/h, gusts 15 mph24 km/h
    UV peak
    3
  5. Wednesday, Oct 28. Rain. High 58°14°, low 36°2°. Typical 60°16° / 40°4°. Rain 0.1 in2.5 mm, 50% chance. Mostly agree.
    1. Morning

      6 AM–noon

      Drizzle, 45°7°

      40% chance

    2. Afternoon

      noon–6 PM

      Drizzle, 55°13°

      50% chance · 0.07 in1.8 mm

    3. Evening

      6 PM–midnight

      Mostly clear, 45°7°

      30% chance

    4. Overnight

      midnight–6 AM

      Drizzle, 43°6°

      40% chance · 0.06 in1.5 mm

    Hours this far out come from computer models only.

    Official NWS forecast

    Day: A chance of rain. Partly sunny, with a high near 58.

    Night: A chance of rain. Mostly cloudy, with a low around 36.

    Mostly agreeIndependent forecasts are fairly close; small surprises are possible.

    High, likely
    53°12°–58°14°
    Low, likely
    36°2°–44°7°
    Typical high / low
    60°16° / 40°4°
    Wind
    9 mph15 km/h, gusts 20 mph32 km/h
    UV peak
    3
  6. Thursday, Oct 29. Rain. High 55°13°, low 33°1°. Typical 59°15° / 40°4°. Rain 0.15 in3.8 mm, 60% chance. Mostly agree.
    1. Morning

      6 AM–noon

      Drizzle, 44°7°

      40% chance · 0.03 in0.9 mm

    2. Afternoon

      noon–6 PM

      Drizzle, 52°11°

      60% chance · 0.05 in1.3 mm

    3. Evening

      6 PM–midnight

      Clear, 44°7°

      40% chance

    4. Overnight

      midnight–6 AM

      Clear, 39°4°

      30% chance · 0.05 in1.2 mm

    Hours this far out come from computer models only.

    Official NWS forecast

    Day: Rain likely. Partly sunny, with a high near 55.

    Night: A chance of rain. Mostly cloudy, with a low around 33.

    Mostly agreeIndependent forecasts are fairly close; small surprises are possible.

    High, likely
    50°10°–55°13°
    Low, likely
    33°1°–43°6°
    Typical high / low
    59°15° / 40°4°
    Wind
    11 mph18 km/h, gusts 18 mph29 km/h
    UV peak
    3
  7. Friday, Oct 30. Rain. High 56°13°, low 32°0°. Typical 59°15° / 40°4°. Rain 0.12 in3 mm, 30% chance. Forecasts agree.
    1. Morning

      6 AM–noon

      Sunny, 39°4°

      30% chance · 0.02 in0.5 mm

    2. Afternoon

      noon–6 PM

      Drizzle, 51°10°

      30% chance · 0.03 in0.8 mm

    3. Evening

      6 PM–midnight

      Drizzle, 44°7°

      20% chance · 0.03 in0.7 mm

    4. Overnight

      midnight–6 AM

      Cloudy, 39°4°

      Dry

    Hours this far out come from computer models only.

    Official NWS forecast

    Day: A chance of rain. Partly sunny, with a high near 56.

    Night: A slight chance of rain before 11pm. Partly cloudy, with a low around 32.

    Forecasts agreeIndependent forecasts are close; the range is narrow.

    High, likely
    50°10°–56°13°
    Low, likely
    32°0°–39°4°
    Typical high / low
    59°15° / 40°4°
    Wind
    7 mph12 km/h, gusts 24 mph38 km/h
    UV peak
    3
  8. Saturday, Oct 31. Cloudy. High 51°11°, low 37°3°. Typical 58°14° / 40°4°. Dry. Mostly agree.
    1. Morning

      6 AM–noon

      Sunny, 40°4°

      Dry

    2. Afternoon

      noon–6 PM

      Sunny, 51°11°

      Dry

    3. Evening

      6 PM–midnight

      Mostly clear, 43°6°

      Dry

    4. Overnight

      midnight–6 AM

      Clear, 37°3°

      Dry

    Hours this far out come from computer models only.

    The National Weather Service writes about seven days ahead; this day is our model forecast only.

    Mostly agreeIndependent forecasts are fairly close; small surprises are possible.

    High, likely
    50°10°–53°12°
    Low, likely
    35°2°–41°5°
    Typical high / low
    58°14° / 40°4°
    Wind
    6 mph10 km/h, gusts 14 mph23 km/h
    UV peak
    3
  9. Sunday, Nov 1. Cloudy. High 55°13°, low 36°2°. Typical 58°14° / 40°4°. Dry. Mostly agree.
    1. Morning

      6 AM–noon

      Sunny, 37°3°

      Dry

    2. Afternoon

      noon–6 PM

      Mostly sunny, 55°13°

      Dry

    3. Evening

      6 PM–midnight

      Cloudy, 47°8°

      Dry

    4. Overnight

      midnight–6 AM

      Cloudy, 45°7°

      Dry

    Hours this far out come from computer models only.

    The National Weather Service writes about seven days ahead; this day is our model forecast only.

    Mostly agreeIndependent forecasts are fairly close; small surprises are possible.

    High, likely
    52°11°–58°14°
    Low, likely
    33°1°–39°4°
    Typical high / low
    58°14° / 40°4°
    Wind
    9 mph14 km/h, gusts 22 mph35 km/h
    UV peak
    3
  10. Monday, Nov 2. Drizzle. High 53°12°, low 41°5°. Typical 58°14° / 39°4°. Rain 0.09 in2.3 mm, 20% chance. Forecasts agree.
    1. Morning

      6 AM–noon

      Cloudy, 46°8°

      Dry

    2. Afternoon

      noon–6 PM

      Cloudy, 53°11°

      Dry

    3. Evening

      6 PM–midnight

      Clear, 45°7°

      Dry

    Hours this far out come from computer models only.

    The National Weather Service writes about seven days ahead; this day is our model forecast only.

    Forecasts agreeIndependent forecasts are close; the range is narrow.

    High, likely
    53°12°–54°12°
    Low, likely
    38°3°–43°6°
    Typical high / low
    58°14° / 39°4°
    Wind
    9 mph14 km/h, gusts 14 mph23 km/h
    UV peak
    1

The outlook

  1. Today

    Dry, high 61°, low 37°.

  2. Tomorrow

    68% chance of rain, high 60°, low 43°.

  3. Monday

    93% chance of rain, high 58°, low 42°.

  4. Rest of week

    Highs 51–60°; chance of precipitation on Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday.

Want the meteorologists’ reasoning? Read the NWS forecast discussion (PQR) (opens in a new tab)

What changed since yesterday

No meaningful changes from yesterday’s forecast.

Radar

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Rivers

NOAA river gauges within 25 mi

Long Tom River at Monroe

0.3 mi
Below flood stage
Level
5.3 ft
Flow
645 cfs

Forecast peak 5.4 ft Tue 4 AM

Reading from Sat 4:15 PM · NWS gauge page

Willamette River at Harrisburg

7.0 mi
Below flood stage
Level
1.6 ft
Flow
3,790 cfs

Forecast peak 1.9 ft Mon 11 PM

Reading from Sat 4 PM · NWS gauge page

Marys River near Philomath

15 mi
Below flood stage
Level
1.9 ft
Flow
14 cfs

Forecast peak 2.1 ft Mon 5 AM

Reading from Sat 4 PM · NWS gauge page

Willamette River at Corvallis

17 mi
Below flood stage
Level
10.3 ft
Flow
4,640 cfs

Forecast peak 10.5 ft Tue 11 AM

Reading from Sat 3:15 PM · NWS gauge page

For your home

What this week’s weather means for heating, cooling, pipes and fresh air.

Heating this week

About 71% less heating than a typical week.

This week 31Typical 105

Heating degree days, base 65°F

Heat-pump hours, next 7 days

h below 47°F
18
h below 17°F
0
h below 5°F
0

47, 17 and 5°F are the test points heat pumps are rated at. About 7 hours are near freezing and damp, when outdoor units defrost more often.

Comfort

Dry air outside (dew point 37°F).

Open the windows?

No stretch in the next few days is comfortable enough outside, by temperature, dew point and air quality.

Is this typical?

Eugene-Mahlon Sweet Field · official normals 1991–2020 · records 1893–2026

Oct 24, today vs a typical year

Today’s expected high is about typical for the date.

Normal high / low
61°16° / 40°4°
Forecast high / low
61°16° / 37°3°
Record high
75°24° in 1924
Record low
27°−3° in 1935

Last 7 days vs normal

On average 1° colder than normal (daily mean temperature).

  1. ±0°MonOct 19
  2. +1°±0°TueOct 20
  3. +1°±0°WedOct 21
  4. −1°ThuOct 22
  5. −5°−3°FriOct 23
  6. —SatOct 24
  7. —SunOct 25

Monroe weather by month: normals, records, snow and freeze dates

Sun & moon

Sun

Sunrise 7:39 AM, sunset 6:14 PM.

Daylight
10 h 34 min
Losing 2 min 49 s a day; shortest Dec 21, 1 h 43 min less
Golden hour
5:33–6:32 PM
Morning 7:21–8:20 AM
Blue hour
6:32–6:43 PM
Morning 7:10–7:21 AM; first light 7:10 AM

Stars tonight? Poor

Clouds most of the night (about 81% cover).

Moon

Waxing gibbous

98% lit · growing

Today
sets 5:58 AM · rises 5:15 PM
Full moon
Oct 25
New moon
Nov 8
Looking east from Monroe. The highest point on the skyline is about 10,100 ft, 78 mi away.Skyline from USGS elevation data, heights drawn up to 6× taller. Sky, sun and moon as they are now.