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Observed 10:40 AM PDT at KSLE

Stayton, OR weather

Sunny and 46°8°.

Today: low 39°4° (likely 33°1° to 39°4°), high 59°15° (likely 56°13° to 59°15°).

Mostly agree

Now 46°8°

Sunny

Wind
Calm
Light through 11 PM
Dew point
37°3°
Comfortable
UV tomorrow
2Low
Low all day (peak 2)
Air quality
25Good
Main pollutant: PM2.5 (fine particles)
Pressure
30.19 inHg1022 hPa
Falling · −0.05 inHg−1.6 hPa in 3 h

Next 2 hours

No precipitation expected in the next 2 hours.

Next 48 hours

4°2° cooler than this time yesterday (47°8° then, 43°6° now)

Good hours for
  • Dry until tomorrow 10 AM
  • High 59°15° today at 4 PM
  • Below 50°10° tonight after 8 PM
  • Rain tomorrow from 10 AM (90%, 2.6 in66 mm)
  • Above 50°10° tomorrow by 10 AM
  1. This afternoonUp to 59°15° by 4 PM · Mostly cloudy
  2. TonightDown to 41°5° by 3 AM · Mostly cloudy
  3. Tomorrow morningUp to 54°12° by 11 AM · Rain 10 AM–noon (50%)
  4. Tomorrow afternoonUp to 60°16° by 4 PM · Rain all afternoon (70%)
  5. Tomorrow nightDown to 45°7° by 5 AM · Rain all night (90%)
  6. Monday morningUp to 49°9° by 10 AM · Rain all morning (90%)
Hourly forecast, next 48 hours, in the place's local time
HourConditionsTemperatureFeels likePrecipitationWindHumidityCloud coverUV index
Sat 11aCloudy49°9° (likely 46°8° to 51°11°)49°9°0%2 mph3 km/h from NW, gusts 6 mph10 km/h74%67%1
Sat 12pCloudy52°11° (likely 49°9° to 54°12°)52°11°0%2 mph3 km/h from NNW, gusts 7 mph11 km/h67%68%2
Sat 1pCloudy56°13° (likely 51°11° to 57°14°)56°13°0%2 mph3 km/h from NNW, gusts 6 mph10 km/h62%63%2
Sat 2pCloudy57°14° (likely 54°12° to 59°15°)57°14°0%2 mph3 km/h from NNW, gusts 5 mph9 km/h59%81%2
Sat 3pCloudy58°14° (likely 55°13° to 59°15°)58°14°0%2 mph3 km/h from NNW, gusts 5 mph8 km/h56%81%2
Sat 4pCloudy59°15° (likely 56°13° to 59°15°)59°15°0%1 mph2 km/h from NNW, gusts 5 mph8 km/h54%81%1
Sat 5pCloudy58°14° (likely 55°13° to 59°15°)58°14°0%0 mph0 km/h, gusts 3 mph4 km/h56%82%1
Sat 6pCloudy56°13° (likely 51°11° to 56°13°)56°13°0%0 mph0 km/h, gusts 3 mph5 km/h62%81%0
Sat 7pCloudy53°12° (likely 49°9° to 53°12°)53°12°0%1 mph2 km/h from E, gusts 4 mph6 km/h71%83%0
Sat 8pCloudy49°9° (likely 48°9° to 49°9°)49°9°0%1 mph2 km/h from ESE, gusts 6 mph9 km/h76%82%0
Sat 9pCloudy47°8° (likely 47°8° to 48°9°)47°8°0%2 mph3 km/h from SE, gusts 6 mph10 km/h78%82%0
Sat 10pCloudy46°8° (likely 46°8° to 48°9°)46°8°0%2 mph3 km/h from SSE, gusts 6 mph9 km/h80%83%0
Sat 11pCloudy46°8° (likely 45°7° to 48°9°)45°7°0%3 mph5 km/h from SE, gusts 6 mph10 km/h81%82%0
Sun 12aCloudy44°7° (likely 44°7° to 47°8°)42°6°0%3 mph5 km/h from SE, gusts 7 mph11 km/h81%81%0
Sun 1aCloudy43°6° (likely 43°6° to 47°8°)41°5°0%3 mph5 km/h from SSE, gusts 8 mph12 km/h82%81%0
Sun 2aCloudy43°6° (likely 43°6° to 46°8°)41°5°0%5 mph8 km/h from SSE, gusts 8 mph13 km/h82%79%0
Sun 3aCloudy41°5° (likely 41°5° to 46°8°)38°3°0%5 mph8 km/h from SSE, gusts 9 mph14 km/h81%76%0
Sun 4aCloudy41°5° (likely 41°5° to 46°8°)38°3°0%6 mph10 km/h from SSE, gusts 9 mph14 km/h82%72%0
Sun 5aCloudy41°5° (likely 41°5° to 46°8°)37°3°5%, 0.01 in0.3 mm6 mph10 km/h from SSE, gusts 9 mph14 km/h81%70%0
Sun 6aCloudy40°4° (likely 40°4° to 46°8°)36°2°5%, 0.01 in0.3 mm7 mph11 km/h from SSE, gusts 12 mph19 km/h82%71%0
Sun 7aCloudy41°5° (likely 41°5° to 47°8°)37°3°10%, 0.01 in0.3 mm8 mph13 km/h from SSE, gusts 13 mph21 km/h81%73%0
Sun 8aCloudy41°5° (likely 41°5° to 48°9°)36°2°20%, 0.01 in0.3 mm8 mph13 km/h from SSE, gusts 13 mph21 km/h83%75%0
Sun 9aCloudy43°6° (likely 43°6° to 53°12°)38°3°30%, 0.01 in0.3 mm9 mph14 km/h from S, gusts 16 mph26 km/h83%77%0
Sun 10aCloudy50°10° (likely 50°10° to 57°14°)47°8°30%, 0.01 in0.3 mm8 mph13 km/h from S, gusts 18 mph29 km/h73%79%1
Sun 11aPartly sunny54°12° (likely 54°12° to 60°16°)54°12°50%, 0.26 in6.6 mm8 mph13 km/h from S, gusts 22 mph35 km/h66%85%2
Sun 12pRain56°13° (likely 53°12° to 60°16°)56°13°50%, 0.26 in6.6 mm8 mph13 km/h from S, gusts 18 mph28 km/h65%100%2
Sun 1pRain58°14° (likely 52°11° to 58°14°)58°14°50%, 0.26 in6.6 mm8 mph13 km/h from S, gusts 18 mph28 km/h65%100%1
Sun 2pRain59°15° (likely 51°11° to 59°15°)59°15°60%, 0.26 in6.6 mm9 mph14 km/h from SSW, gusts 16 mph26 km/h66%100%1
Sun 3pRain59°15° (likely 52°11° to 59°15°)59°15°50%, 0.26 in6.6 mm8 mph13 km/h from SSW, gusts 16 mph26 km/h67%100%1
Sun 4pRain60°16° (likely 51°11° to 60°16°)60°16°40%, 0.26 in6.6 mm8 mph13 km/h from SSW, gusts 18 mph29 km/h70%100%0
Sun 5pRain59°15° (likely 51°11° to 59°15°)59°15°70%, 0.07 in1.8 mm8 mph13 km/h from SSW, gusts 15 mph25 km/h73%100%0
Sun 6pRain57°14° (likely 51°11° to 57°14°)57°14°60%, 0.07 in1.8 mm8 mph13 km/h from SSW, gusts 17 mph27 km/h76%96%0
Sun 7pRain55°13° (likely 51°11° to 55°13°)55°13°40%, 0.07 in1.8 mm8 mph13 km/h from SSW, gusts 16 mph26 km/h81%91%0
Sun 8pRain52°11° (likely 50°10° to 53°12°)52°11°40%, 0.07 in1.8 mm9 mph14 km/h from SSE, gusts 15 mph23 km/h87%87%0
Sun 9pDrizzle51°11° (likely 50°10° to 52°11°)51°11°80%, 0.07 in1.8 mm9 mph14 km/h from SSE, gusts 15 mph24 km/h90%68%0
Sun 10pRain51°11° (likely 50°10° to 52°11°)51°11°80%, 0.07 in1.8 mm9 mph14 km/h from SSE, gusts 15 mph24 km/h91%67%0
Sun 11pRain50°10° (likely 50°10° to 51°11°)46°8°40%, 0.06 in1.5 mm12 mph19 km/h from S, gusts 16 mph26 km/h92%70%0
Mon 12aRain49°9° (likely 49°9° to 52°11°)45°7°70%, 0.06 in1.5 mm12 mph19 km/h from S, gusts 17 mph28 km/h93%95%0
Mon 1aRain49°9° (likely 49°9° to 51°11°)45°7°80%, 0.06 in1.5 mm12 mph19 km/h from S, gusts 19 mph30 km/h93%97%0
Mon 2aCloudy48°9° (likely 48°9° to 52°11°)43°6°30%, 0.06 in1.5 mm12 mph19 km/h from SSE, gusts 18 mph29 km/h93%97%0
Mon 3aCloudy47°8° (likely 47°8° to 51°11°)42°6°70%, 0.06 in1.5 mm12 mph19 km/h from SSE, gusts 18 mph28 km/h94%92%0
Mon 4aRain46°8° (likely 46°8° to 51°11°)41°5°80%, 0.06 in1.5 mm12 mph19 km/h from SSE, gusts 19 mph30 km/h95%98%0
Mon 5aRain45°7° (likely 45°7° to 51°11°)40°4°90%, 0.04 in1 mm13 mph21 km/h from SSE, gusts 16 mph26 km/h96%100%0
Mon 6aRain45°7° (likely 45°7° to 52°11°)40°4°90%, 0.04 in1 mm13 mph21 km/h from SSE, gusts 12 mph19 km/h98%100%0
Mon 7aRain44°7° (likely 44°7° to 52°11°)38°3°90%, 0.04 in1 mm13 mph21 km/h from SSE, gusts 14 mph22 km/h100%100%0
Mon 8aRain44°7° (likely 44°7° to 52°11°)38°3°90%, 0.04 in1 mm13 mph21 km/h from S, gusts 11 mph17 km/h100%100%0
Mon 9aRain47°8° (likely 47°8° to 53°12°)42°6°90%, 0.04 in1 mm13 mph21 km/h from S, gusts 11 mph18 km/h98%99%0
Mon 10aDrizzle49°9° (likely 49°9° to 53°12°)44°7°90%, 0.04 in1 mm13 mph21 km/h from S, gusts 11 mph17 km/h95%99%0

Days ahead

Shaded: typical range for these dates (1991–2020)
  1. Today, Oct 24. Mostly cloudy. High 59°15°, low 39°4°. Typical 61°16° / 42°6°. Dry. Mostly agree.
    1. Afternoon

      noon–6 PM

      Cloudy, 59°15°

      Dry

    2. Evening

      6 PM–midnight

      Cloudy, 49°9°

      Dry

    3. Overnight

      midnight–6 AM

      Cloudy, 41°5°

      Dry

    Official NWS forecast

    Today: Partly sunny, with a high near 59. North northwest wind around 2 mph.

    Tonight: Mostly cloudy. Low around 39, with temperatures rising to around 41 overnight. Southeast wind 0 to 6 mph.

    Mostly agreeIndependent forecasts are fairly close; small surprises are possible.

    High, likely
    56°13°–59°15°
    Low, likely
    33°1°–39°4°
    Typical high / low
    61°16° / 42°6°
    Wind
    6 mph9 km/h, gusts 11 mph18 km/h
    UV peak
    3
  2. Tomorrow, Oct 25. Rain. High 61°16°, low 43°6°. Typical 61°16° / 42°6°. Rain 0.72 in18 mm, 70% chance. Forecasts differ.
    1. Morning

      6 AM–noon

      Cloudy, 41°5°

      50% chance · 0.31 in7.9 mm

    2. Afternoon

      noon–6 PM

      Rain, 60°16°

      70% chance · 1.4 in35 mm

    3. Evening

      6 PM–midnight

      Rain, 52°11°

      80% chance · 0.41 in10 mm

    4. Overnight

      midnight–6 AM

      Rain, 45°7°

      90% chance · 0.34 in8.6 mm

    Official NWS forecast

    Day: Rain likely after 8am. Mostly cloudy. High near 61, with temperatures falling to around 59 in the afternoon. South wind around 9 mph. Chance of precipitation is 70%. New rainfall amounts between a quarter and half of an inch possible.

    Night: Rain. Cloudy, with a low around 43. South wind 8 to 13 mph, with gusts as high as 21 mph. Chance of precipitation is 90%. New rainfall amounts between a tenth and quarter of an inch possible.

    Forecasts differIndependent forecasts disagree; expect changes and plan for the range.

    High, likely
    54°12°–61°16°
    Low, likely
    41°5°–46°8°
    Typical high / low
    61°16° / 42°6°
    Wind
    12 mph20 km/h, gusts 27 mph43 km/h
    UV peak
    2
  3. Monday, Oct 26. Rain. High 57°14°, low 41°5°. Typical 60°16° / 42°6°. Rain 0.55 in14 mm, 90% chance. Mostly agree.
    1. Morning

      6 AM–noon

      Rain, 44°7°

      90% chance · 0.23 in5.9 mm

    2. Afternoon

      noon–6 PM

      Showers, 54°12°

      90% chance · 0.15 in3.8 mm

    3. Evening

      6 PM–midnight

      Drizzle, 51°10°

      70% chance · 0.09 in2.2 mm

    4. Overnight

      midnight–6 AM

      Drizzle, 49°10°

      60% chance · 0.1 in2.6 mm

    Hours this far out come from computer models only.

    Official NWS forecast

    Day: Rain. Cloudy, with a high near 57. South wind 7 to 13 mph, with gusts as high as 21 mph. Chance of precipitation is 90%. New rainfall amounts between a tenth and quarter of an inch possible.

    Night: Rain likely. Mostly cloudy, with a low around 41. Chance of precipitation is 70%.

    Mostly agreeIndependent forecasts are fairly close; small surprises are possible.

    High, likely
    52°11°–57°14°
    Low, likely
    41°5°–51°11°
    Typical high / low
    60°16° / 42°6°
    Wind
    14 mph22 km/h, gusts 27 mph44 km/h
    UV peak
    1
  4. Tuesday, Oct 27. Rain. High 59°15°, low 40°4°. Typical 60°16° / 42°6°. Rain 0.37 in9.4 mm, 70% chance. Forecasts agree.
    1. Morning

      6 AM–noon

      Rain, 49°10°

      60% chance · 0.11 in2.8 mm

    2. Afternoon

      noon–6 PM

      Drizzle, 55°13°

      60% chance · 0.12 in3 mm

    3. Evening

      6 PM–midnight

      Drizzle, 49°9°

      40% chance · 0.04 in0.9 mm

    4. Overnight

      midnight–6 AM

      Cloudy, 46°8°

      40% chance · 0.02 in0.6 mm

    Hours this far out come from computer models only.

    Official NWS forecast

    Day: Rain likely. Mostly cloudy, with a high near 59.

    Night: A chance of rain. Mostly cloudy, with a low around 40.

    Forecasts agreeIndependent forecasts are close; the range is narrow.

    High, likely
    54°12°–59°15°
    Low, likely
    40°4°–49°9°
    Typical high / low
    60°16° / 42°6°
    Wind
    9 mph14 km/h, gusts 17 mph28 km/h
    UV peak
    3
  5. Wednesday, Oct 28. Rain. High 58°14°, low 38°3°. Typical 60°16° / 42°6°. Rain 0.32 in8.1 mm, 50% chance. Forecasts agree.
    1. Morning

      6 AM–noon

      Drizzle, 47°8°

      60% chance · 0.09 in2.2 mm

    2. Afternoon

      noon–6 PM

      Showers, 52°11°

      70% chance · 0.13 in3.3 mm

    3. Evening

      6 PM–midnight

      Drizzle, 45°7°

      70% chance · 0.05 in1.4 mm

    4. Overnight

      midnight–6 AM

      Showers, 43°6°

      60% chance · 0.07 in1.8 mm

    Hours this far out come from computer models only.

    Official NWS forecast

    Day: A chance of rain. Mostly cloudy, with a high near 58.

    Night: A chance of rain. Mostly cloudy, with a low around 38.

    Forecasts agreeIndependent forecasts are close; the range is narrow.

    High, likely
    51°11°–58°14°
    Low, likely
    38°3°–45°7°
    Typical high / low
    60°16° / 42°6°
    Wind
    12 mph19 km/h, gusts 22 mph35 km/h
    UV peak
    2
  6. Thursday, Oct 29. Rain. High 57°14°, low 35°2°. Typical 59°15° / 42°6°. Rain 0.34 in8.6 mm, 40% chance. Mostly agree.
    1. Morning

      6 AM–noon

      Drizzle, 43°6°

      50% chance · 0.07 in1.8 mm

    2. Afternoon

      noon–6 PM

      Drizzle, 51°10°

      60% chance · 0.12 in3.1 mm

    3. Evening

      6 PM–midnight

      Drizzle, 43°6°

      50% chance · 0.05 in1.4 mm

    4. Overnight

      midnight–6 AM

      Mostly clear, 41°5°

      30% chance · 0.03 in0.8 mm

    Hours this far out come from computer models only.

    Official NWS forecast

    Day: A chance of rain. Partly sunny, with a high near 57.

    Night: A slight chance of rain. Mostly cloudy, with a low around 35.

    Mostly agreeIndependent forecasts are fairly close; small surprises are possible.

    High, likely
    49°9°–57°14°
    Low, likely
    35°2°–44°7°
    Typical high / low
    59°15° / 42°6°
    Wind
    10 mph16 km/h, gusts 22 mph35 km/h
    UV peak
    3
  7. Friday, Oct 30. Rain. High 57°14°, low 35°2°. Typical 59°15° / 41°5°. Rain 0.13 in3.3 mm, 20% chance. Mostly agree.
    1. Morning

      6 AM–noon

      Drizzle, 41°5°

      30% chance · 0.04 in1 mm

    2. Afternoon

      noon–6 PM

      Cloudy, 48°9°

      30% chance · 0.05 in1.3 mm

    3. Evening

      6 PM–midnight

      Cloudy, 42°5°

      20% chance

    4. Overnight

      midnight–6 AM

      Clear, 37°3°

      Dry

    Hours this far out come from computer models only.

    Official NWS forecast

    Day: A slight chance of rain. Partly sunny, with a high near 57.

    Night: A slight chance of rain before 11pm. Partly cloudy, with a low around 35.

    Mostly agreeIndependent forecasts are fairly close; small surprises are possible.

    High, likely
    47°8°–57°14°
    Low, likely
    35°2°–41°5°
    Typical high / low
    59°15° / 41°5°
    Wind
    10 mph16 km/h, gusts 22 mph35 km/h
    UV peak
    2
  8. Saturday, Oct 31. Cloudy. High 50°10°, low 34°1°. Typical 58°14° / 41°5°. Dry. Mostly agree.
    1. Morning

      6 AM–noon

      Sunny, 37°3°

      Dry

    2. Afternoon

      noon–6 PM

      Mostly sunny, 49°10°

      Dry

    3. Evening

      6 PM–midnight

      Cloudy, 41°5°

      Dry

    4. Overnight

      midnight–6 AM

      Clear, 36°2°

      Dry

    Hours this far out come from computer models only.

    The National Weather Service writes about seven days ahead; this day is our model forecast only.

    Mostly agreeIndependent forecasts are fairly close; small surprises are possible.

    High, likely
    48°9°–52°11°
    Low, likely
    30°−1°–37°3°
    Typical high / low
    58°14° / 41°5°
    Wind
    6 mph9 km/h, gusts 11 mph18 km/h
    UV peak
    3
  9. Sunday, Nov 1. Cloudy. High 53°12°, low 36°2°. Typical 58°14° / 41°5°. Dry. Forecasts differ.
    1. Morning

      6 AM–noon

      Sunny, 37°3°

      Dry

    2. Afternoon

      noon–6 PM

      Sunny, 53°12°

      Dry

    3. Evening

      6 PM–midnight

      Cloudy, 45°7°

      Dry

    4. Overnight

      midnight–6 AM

      Partly cloudy, 42°6°

      Dry

    Hours this far out come from computer models only.

    The National Weather Service writes about seven days ahead; this day is our model forecast only.

    Forecasts differIndependent forecasts disagree; expect changes and plan for the range.

    High, likely
    48°9°–58°14°
    Low, likely
    32°0°–39°4°
    Typical high / low
    58°14° / 41°5°
    Wind
    9 mph14 km/h
    UV peak
    3
  10. Monday, Nov 2. Cloudy. High 53°12°, low 39°4°. Typical 58°14° / 41°5°. Rain 0.17 in4.3 mm, 20% chance. Mostly agree.
    1. Morning

      6 AM–noon

      Cloudy, 45°7°

      Dry

    2. Afternoon

      noon–6 PM

      Partly sunny, 53°12°

      20% chance

    3. Evening

      6 PM–midnight

      Mostly clear, 43°6°

      20% chance

    Hours this far out come from computer models only.

    The National Weather Service writes about seven days ahead; this day is our model forecast only.

    Mostly agreeIndependent forecasts are fairly close; small surprises are possible.

    High, likely
    50°10°–57°14°
    Low, likely
    36°2°–42°6°
    Typical high / low
    58°14° / 41°5°
    Wind
    11 mph17 km/h, gusts 23 mph37 km/h
    UV peak
    3

The outlook

  1. Today

    Dry, high 59°, low 39°.

  2. Tomorrow

    68% chance of rain, high 61°, low 43°.

  3. Monday

    90% chance of rain, high 57°, low 41°, cooling off.

  4. Rest of week

    Highs 50–59°; chance of precipitation on Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday.

Want the meteorologists’ reasoning? Read the NWS forecast discussion (PQR) (opens in a new tab)

What changed since yesterday

No meaningful changes from yesterday’s forecast.

Radar

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Rivers

NOAA river gauges within 25 mi

Thomas Creek near Scio

6.6 mi
Below flood stage
Level
3.8 ft
Flow
9 cfs

Forecast peak 4.0 ft Sat 11 AM

Reading from Sat 9:45 AM · NWS gauge page

N Santiam River at Mehama

9.0 mi
Below flood stage
Level
3.3 ft
Flow
1,310 cfs

Forecast peak 3.3 ft Thu 5 AM

Reading from Sat 10:15 AM · NWS gauge page

Santiam River at Jefferson

12 mi
Below flood stage
Level
2.8 ft
Flow
2,190 cfs

Forecast peak 2.9 ft Thu 11 AM

Reading from Sat 10 AM · NWS gauge page

Mill Creek (Marion Co., OR) at Spenner Road near Sublimity

2.4 mi
Below flood stage
Level
2.2 ft
Flow
under 1 cfs

Reading from Sat 10:20 AM · NWS gauge page

For your home

What this week’s weather means for heating, cooling, pipes and fresh air.

Heating this week

About 70% less heating than a typical week.

This week 30Typical 99

Heating degree days, base 65°F

Heat-pump hours, next 7 days

h below 47°F
20
h below 17°F
0
h below 5°F
0

47, 17 and 5°F are the test points heat pumps are rated at. About 6 hours are near freezing and damp, when outdoor units defrost more often.

Comfort

Dry air outside (dew point 37°F).

Open the windows?

No stretch in the next few days is comfortable enough outside, by temperature, dew point and air quality.

Is this typical?

Salem Airport (mcnary Field) · official normals 1991–2020 · records 1893–2026

Oct 24, today vs a typical year

Today’s expected high is 2°1° colder than typical.

Normal high / low
61°16° / 42°6°
Forecast high / low
59°15° / 39°4°
Record high
76°24° in 1900
Record low
28°−2° in 1935

Last 7 days vs normal

On average 1°0° warmer than normal (daily mean temperature).

  1. −3°−2°SunOct 18
  2. +1°MonOct 19
  3. +6°+3°TueOct 20
  4. +4°+2°WedOct 21
  5. +1°ThuOct 22
  6. −3°−2°FriOct 23
  7. —SatOct 24

Stayton weather by month: normals, records, snow and freeze dates

Sun & moon

Sun

Sunrise 7:38 AM, sunset 6:11 PM.

Daylight
10 h 33 min
Losing 2 min 53 s a day; shortest Dec 21, 1 h 45 min less
Golden hour
5:30–6:29 PM
Morning 7:20–8:19 AM
Blue hour
6:29–6:41 PM
Morning 7:08–7:20 AM; first light 7:08 AM

Stars tonight? Poor

Clouds most of the night (about 78% cover).

Moon

Waxing gibbous

97% lit · growing

Today
sets 5:56 AM · rises 5:12 PM
Full moon
Oct 25
New moon
Nov 8
Looking east from Stayton. The highest point on the skyline is about 10,100 ft, 49 mi away.Skyline from USGS elevation data, heights drawn up to 6× taller. Sky, sun and moon as they are now.